OK, it's been a while. Rafe is so busy these days, I thought I'd do a special podcast (maybe one of several) with guests. Starting with Mark and Lee Swidler, who have been helping me with my Lumia 950/Nokia 9 comparisons. In Phones Show Chat 491, they went into detail on the new Nokia, but here they focus more on the '950', which has been serving them both well for three years. But for how much longer, for both the hardware and the OS? I investigate, in audio form!